The bird paparazzi.............

[Ukwildlifeo]

Originally Posted by Fiona Ward

What is it with having to take pictures of something rather than just enjoying looking at it??

Equally one could argue why would someone not want to photograph something they enjoy looking at?

[FUDGEY]

You cant point the finger at one and not the other. It is mostly about experience IMO. A good photographer and a good twitcher the majority of the time wont disturb their subject. Inexperienced ones will most likely be the worst offenders. Of course like every thing in life there are always exceptions to the rule.

[JeffH]

Originally Posted by Wild-Woman

Many people would not be able appreciate the spectacle of nature for many reasons, had it not been for the skills of the seasoned wildlife photographer. Photos can educate, enthuse and inspire. If that gets more folk to engage with nature, then it can only do good and strengthen our resolve to protect it.

Well said Jules

Jeff
(Schedule 1 Licence holder for Kingfishers, Barn Owls and Avocets)

[MetalMoth]

Hides are for everyone to use. I have been in hides with lots of photographers before and they have all been nice guys who are there to see the wildlife aswell as photograph it. It is unfair to criticise people who may also be there for the enjoyment of nature too.

[RoyW]

Originally Posted by MetalMoth

Hides are for everyone to use.

And as long as everyone, including the photographers, remember this there shouldn't be a problem.

In my experience the only time that photographers are really a problem in public access hides (including those on reserves) is when they hog the available space, as mentioned earlier in this thread. Spending perhaps an hour or two in a hide is fair (if the hide is not exceptionally busy), but if photographers want to spend all day, perhaps even several days, in a hide (which can be necessary to get the best shots) this can understandably be seen as unfair on others who are trying to use the hide and may not be able to because of a lack of space.
Of course, the same can be said of other users of the hide - they can sometimes be just as guilty of hogging space (eg. people eating lunch in busy hides - and not even keeping watch while doing so!).

[Fiona Ward]

Originally Posted by gobbiner

Its not often something or someone irritates me Fiona, but you do need to engage brain before opening mouth

Aren't you supposed to refrain from this kind ofpost on this site?

[gobbiner]

Originally Posted by Fiona Ward

Aren't you supposed to refrain from this kind ofpost on this site?

What Explain yourself please, you attack photographers and you dont want us to have a right to a reply, not very democratic Fiona please do reply

[RoyW]

Originally Posted by gobbiner

What Explain yourself please, you attack photographers and you dont want us to have a right to a reply, not very democratic Fiona please do reply

Fiona isn't suggesting that photographers don't have a right to reply, but it does seem that your response was more of an attack on the person than what was said.

Had you replied with "Rather than being a lucrative market, it's actually very difficult to make any real money from wildlife photography" (or similar), I doubt that there would have been any objection. Not everyone knows that selling photos doesn't make much money.

[gobbiner]

Originally Posted by RoyW

Fiona isn't suggesting that photographers don't have a right to reply, but it does seem that your response was more of an attack on the person than what was said.

Had you replied with "Rather than being a lucrative market, it's actually very difficult to make any real money from wildlife photography" (or similar), I doubt that there would have been any objection. Not everyone knows that selling photos doesn't make much money.

Ive nothing more to say on this subject, we all have our ideas of what was meant are you right am i right i dont know and im not getting into a arguement so thats my last on the subject