Birds for ID please

[Ryjocl]

I know these photos are really bad quality as they are super crops but can you help id these please. All seen in South East England

1. Dunlin? Little stint? both have been seen at this site today



2. Dunlin? Little stint? both have been seen at this site today


3. Are these wigeon?



4. Is this a juvenile pied wagtail?


5. Chiffchaff?


Thanks

[aeshna5]

1 can't really see it well enough but veering towards Dunlin
2 Little Stint
3 No Wigeon; mostly Pochard, also pair Tufted Duck, pr Gadwall, Coot + Cormorant
4 Pied Wagtail
5 Chiffchaff- short primary projection shows well.

[tigertom]

1 not sure on thinking dunlin
2 little stint
3 can see coot tufted ducks rest dont no
4 pied wagtail
5 chiffchaff

MIKE

[Shrike]

3. As far as i know wigeon will still all be in summer plumage which is all brown/russet.

[John]

I certainly agree with aeshna5's last four. I'm not sure about No 1 as the bill looks a little small but that could be down to the angle of the head. Probably is Dunlin.

John

Originally Posted by aeshna5

1 can't really see it well enough but veering towards Dunlin
2 Little Stint
3 No Wigeon; mostly Pochard, also pair Tufted Duck, pr Gadwall, Coot + Cormorant
4 Pied Wagtail
5 Chiffchaff- short primary projection shows well.

[John B (NTS)]

A Dunlin, apart from looking more portly, ought to be showing some remnants of the summer black belly at this time of year. Both of the top two shots could be Little Stint but these are most easily confused with Sanderling in the summer. I'd need sharper pictures before committing to either.

[John]

Non breeding and Juvenile / 1st winter birds don't have the black belly and there have been a few non black belly Dunlin here in the Midlands the last two weeks so that is not an absolute pointer to look at.

John

Originally Posted by John B (NTS)

A Dunlin, apart from looking more portly, ought to be showing some remnants of the summer black belly at this time of year. Both of the top two shots could be Little Stint but these are most easily confused with Sanderling in the summer. I'd need sharper pictures before committing to either.

[RoyW]

Originally Posted by John B (NTS)

A Dunlin, apart from looking more portly, ought to be showing some remnants of the summer black belly at this time of year. Both of the top two shots could be Little Stint but these are most easily confused with Sanderling in the summer. I'd need sharper pictures before committing to either.

The bird in the first photo can't really be identified (and could be Dunlin, Sanderling, Little Stint - or something else), the others are as Aeshna5 said in his first post though.

[captaincarot]

Originally Posted by RoyW

The bird in the first photo can't really be identified (and could be Dunlin, Sanderling, Little Stint - or something else), the others are as Aeshna5 said in his first post though.

why make it into something rare when there are so many dunlins,

when faced with a bird that might be a dunlin we really should be asking why is this bird not a dunlin. believe me i went through so many dunlin earlier on in the year looking for a broad billed sandpiper, my sheep now count dunlin in order to get to sleep of an evening.

another thing i learned is dunlin are incredibly variable.