Golden Eagle Vs 2 Capercaillie

[Gill Catton]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

I've seen these and other similar videos before.

Comments on the videos often mention the the wolves are a much smaller race then the European and North American ones. I've also seen suggested that the videos are a set-up as wolves aren't usually found alone.

As I've mentioned before, I believe there's a lot of mythology built up around 'iconic' birds, like birds of prey. I think it's to do with the 'macho' image some owners want to display - eg 'I own and handle a bird that can bring down and disembowel a horse with its talons.'!

Give me a baseball bat and send an eagle to me, and see who wins!

Jim

You're still missing the point of the original comment!

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by Gill Catton

You're still missing the point of the original comment!

Huh - what, "amazing footage"?

Jim

[Gill Catton]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

Huh - what, "amazing footage"?

Jim

No, that few self respecting falconers would send an eagle with no jessies into such a situation on purpose because it would be so hard to get it the eagle back (not that it would be physically impossible).

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by Doggle Avaddit

Yes, actually not too dissimilar to the current popular trend of going around the streets with a "Hard Dog".

As in:

"I'm well 'ard. I've got an eagle - he's 'ard too and could go around crushing skulls and breaking jaws and collar bones if I let him. He knows I'm 'arder than him, so he doesn't try it on with me. Did I mention I'm well 'ard?"

;^)

Jim

[willing to learn]

Originally Posted by Jim Ford

As in:

"I'm well 'ard. I've got an eagle - he's 'ard too and could go around crushing skulls and breaking jaws and collar bones if I let him. He knows I'm 'arder than him, so he doesn't try it on with me. Did I mention I'm well 'ard?"

;^)

Jim

Just immature Jim, the incident with the calvicle and Jaw was a falconry related accident at a centre it was a female handler that was injured. The only thugs round are the baseball bat type Eagles have strong feet and span the size of a mans hand the talons similar size to a Grizzle bear.Those that handle eagles know, and respect their strenght in their passion for flying or indeed breeding. Accidents though perhaps rare do happen. No one suggested that eagles would attack people or be trained to attack people.
Regards
Colin

[willing to learn]

This is a Quote about the Harpy Eagle which is considered the most powerful.

(Quote) This is often called the most powerful eagle in the world, weighing up to 9 kgs and measuring 105 cms long. Its talons are longer than a bear’s claws, and it has such a powerful grasp, that it could break a man’s arm or even pierce through his skull if it wanted to. Fortunately, Harpy eagles have never been known to attack humans (unless protecting their nest). In some parts of its range (southern Mexico, Central and South America), Harpy eagles have been said to snatch small children, but this has never been confirmed. They feed mostly on monkeys, sloths, and large birds such as macaws. Iguanas and boas are also taken on occasion. (unquote)

Regards

Colin

[Jim Ford]

Originally Posted by willing to learn

This is a Quote about the Harpy Eagle which is considered the most powerful.

This is often called the most powerful eagle in the world, weighing up to 9 kgs and measuring 105 cms long. Its talons are longer than a bear’s claws, and it has such a powerful grasp, that it could break a man’s arm or even pierce through his skull if it wanted to.

Conjecture, unless there's evidence to support the above statement. Anyway, it doesn't need much thought to bring out some questions. So would it break a man's arm with just a mighty squeeze from one claw, effectively crushing the bone? I somehow don't think it would take the easier option by grasping the arm in each claw and bending it over a branch! Also it could probably bench-press 100Kg "if it wanted to"!

Harpy eagles have been said to snatch small children, but this has never been confirmed.

Again, no evidence - pure hearsay. How small would "small" be anyway?

Jim