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30-12-2010, 09:11 PM
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| | | Empidonax at blakeney point Although i didnt see the mega that irrupted on the norfolk coast ( mainly due to the horrific walk along a shingle beach in gale force winds ). I was just wondering whether a verdict has been reached as to what species it was there were 4 species under scrutiny alder/least/willow and yellow bellied were all suggested ? | 
31-12-2010, 02:42 AM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point Last I heard it was between Alder and Willow with opinion leaning toward Willow.
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31-12-2010, 03:49 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point The UK400 club have accepted it as an Alder...
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31-12-2010, 03:57 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert S J Smith The UK400 club have accepted it as an Alder... | Which basically means that Lee Evans has accepted it as Alder! (after consulting American experts for their opinion though).
Others have come to the same conclusion eg. Why I'm sure the Blakeney flycatcher was an Alder | 
31-12-2010, 04:16 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert S J Smith | Perhaps he already had willow as a tick or one of his rivals already had alder?  | 
31-12-2010, 06:02 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point ....And i thought identifying willow and tits was difficult, my envy of american birders has now slightly diminished , Not gonna take lee evans word for it surely it will go down as traill's flycatcher. | 
31-12-2010, 06:10 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point Quote:
Originally Posted by jcyprus Not gonna take lee evans word for it surely it will go down as traill's flycatcher. | Perhaps, perhaps not...
This bird was seen by a lot of good birders, and there are quite a few good photos. Based on field notes alone I would expect that it would remain as a "traills flycatcher" (Willow and Alder Flycatcher were previously considered to be one species under this name), however I wouldn't be surprised if the photographic evidence does ultimately lead to acceptance as Alder Flycatcher (personally I'm not all that bothered though, 'coz I didn't see it!). | 
31-12-2010, 06:15 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyW I wouldn't be surprised if the photographic evidence does ultimately lead to acceptance as Alder Flycatcher | Why? I thought they could only identified in the hand or by hearing its call/song. Best thing is for it to be accepted as a Traill's...
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31-12-2010, 06:23 PM
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| | | Re: Empidonax at blakeney point Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert S J Smith Why? I thought they could only identified in the hand or by hearing its call/song. Best thing is for it to be accepted as a Traill's... | (Bold highlights added).
If the photographs are of good enough quality (and from the correct angle), it is sometimes possible to use "in the hand" features by looking at measurements from the photos (as an example see the birdguides article on this bird, but similar "in hand" features have been used in other identifications). Quote:
Originally Posted by jcyprus | Yes I'm aware of it thanks!   Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyW |
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