more disgrace on britians shooters

[captaincarot]

it's pretty obvious they as a group couldn't give a toss about the vast majority of our wildlife.

but here's yet more proof of the matter.

Illegally shot ducks confirm lead poisoning still a serious problem for wetland wildlife - Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust (WWT)

[Gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by captaincarot

it's pretty obvious they as a group couldn't give a toss about the vast majority of our wildlife.

but here's yet more proof of the matter.

Illegally shot ducks confirm lead poisoning still a serious problem for wetland wildlife - Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust (WWT)

Ironically, the article that you quote is from the Wildlife and Wetland Trust, an organisation set up by Peter Scott, a duck-shooter, who gave enough of a toss about wildlife to set said organisation up in the first place.

[captaincarot]

Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

Ironically, the article that you quote is from the Wildlife and Wetland Trust, an organisation set up by Peter Scott, a duck-shooter, who gave enough of a toss about wildlife to set said organisation up in the first place.

he never shot anything after his epiphany.thereby no longer being a shooter at all.

[Gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by captaincarot

he never shot anything after his epiphany.thereby no longer being a shooter at all.

Wonder where he got the interest in wildfowl?

[captaincarot]

Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

Wonder where he got the interest in wildfowl?

pesumably that had something to do with his fathers wishes. something along the lines of teach the boy about nature

[The Woodman]

I think you're wrong to tar the group of "britians shooters" with the same brush.

From the survey results there appears to be a good number of duck shooters who use lead contrary to the ban and there are those who respect the legislation, who do not use lead at all and do give a toss for all wildlife.

[captaincarot]

Originally Posted by The Woodman

I think you're wrong to tar the group of "britians shooters" with the same brush.

From the survey results there appears to be a good number of duck shooters who use lead contrary to the ban and there are those who respect the legislation, who do not use lead at all and do give a toss for all wildlife.

70% of ducks purchased from English game dealers, butchers and supermarkets had been shot illegally with lead.

there is no safe exposure limit for lead.

which also means they couldn't give a toss about you either. eating lead poisoned waterfowl will give you a dose of lead also

[eeyore]

Originally Posted by captaincarot

70% of ducks purchased from English game dealers, butchers and supermarkets had been shot illegally with lead.

there is no safe exposure limit for lead.

which also means they couldn't give a toss about you either. eating lead poisoned waterfowl will give you a dose of lead also

I wouldnt have thought that 70% of the ducks purchased from butchers and supermarkets were wild shot - the vast majority are farmed and probably not shot at all

also the chances of getting lead posioning from a duck shot with a lead shot are minimal - you would have to ingest the lead shot yourself and you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that. Virtually all bullets and most airgun pellets are also made from lead so the risk is no higher than when eating a wild shot deer or rabbit.

The issue is with ducks , swans, and geese - all of which ingest gravel to help with their food processing in the crop - ingesting leadshot and thus getting lead posioning

Also this paragraph

some shooting organisations working hard to persuade members of the shooting community to address the problem including promoting information about the regulations and the alternative range of shot types available.

shows that not all shooters are the same - why tar the organisations working hard to address the problem with the same brush as those who dont comply ?

[The Woodman]

There's not much of an arguement about lead poisoning from birds shot with lead as all pheasants purchased from game dealers and everywhere else have been shot with lead shot and have been for over a hundred years. At a guess there must be fifty pheasants (probably more) shot with lead and sold to the public to every duck shot with whatever metallic substance.

I am well aware that there are those shooters who still shoot with lead, my point was that it is wrong group all shooters as lead users.

[captaincarot]

Originally Posted by eeyore

I wouldnt have thought that 70% of the ducks purchased from butchers and supermarkets were wild shot - the vast majority are farmed and probably not shot at all

might it be too much of a leap of imagination, to expect them to be referring to wild shot birds, rather than farmed ones and have just omitted it from the statement due to the law of the bleeding obvious.