Godwit Black tailed or Bar tailed please

[gobbiner]

Thank you for your help ...Ray

[RoyW]

Juvenile Black-tailed.
The biggest clue is that you can (just about) see the black tail - there is a little bit of white at the edges but it clearly doesn't have black & white bars across it.

[gobbiner]

Originally Posted by RoyW

Juvenile Black-tailed.
The biggest clue is that you can (just about) see the black tail - there is a little bit of white at the edges but it clearly doesn't have black & white bars across it.

Thank you Roy cheers...Ray

[captaincarot]

agree with roy on this.

lovely pic but just about the most difficult angle possible to tell them apart from as you can't see the angle of the beak either.

[RoyW]

Originally Posted by captaincarot

agree with roy on this.

lovely pic but just about the most difficult angle possible to tell them apart from as you can't see the angle of the beak either.

Glad to see that we can agree on some threads!

There are a few other features that point to Black-tailed Godwit (such as the tertial pattern, and the fairly orangy breast), but it's defnitely not the easiest of angles from which to assess some features.
It's much easier in flight - Bar-tailed lacks a broad white wing bar!