birds for ID please

hopeless · #1 (**permalink**) 18-08-2010, 01:10 PM

Hi,

Could someone tell me what they are please?
Thank you very much

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faz · #2 (**permalink**) 18-08-2010, 01:32 PM

sticking my neck out here
1 female black cap
2 chiffchaff
3chiffchaff

im sure it will cause a big debate as they are hard to id wabllers and kin

RKB · #3 (**permalink**) 18-08-2010, 02:02 PM

All Chiffchaffs.

thebeard · #4 (**permalink**) 18-08-2010, 10:57 PM

agree with RKB, all looking a bit ruffled!!!

faz · #5 (**permalink**) 19-08-2010, 07:41 PM

no 1 still lokks like a female black cap to me ?

could be light issue but looks brown to me

thebeard · #6 (**permalink**) 20-08-2010, 10:55 AM

i think its the way the light is composed, it does appear to have a brown cap but everything else points to it being a chiffchaff - doesn't have the general appearance of a Sylvia warbler

RKB · #7 (**permalink**) 20-08-2010, 12:43 PM

It also seems to have no eye, but, like the borwn cap (which I struggle to make out), it's an illusion. The tarsus tells you all you need to know - that's definitely an AA ring size! A Blackcap's legs are shorter and stouter.