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08-08-2010, 09:15 AM
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| | Is this a house martin??? I took this photo of a flock of what I thought were swallows, swifts or house martins.
But a close-up of this one stumped me. It doesn't have a fork tail.
Could anyone tell me what it is please? | 
08-08-2010, 09:27 AM
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| | | Re: Is this a house martin??? swallow , rossy.  and welcome wildfirejc. | 
08-08-2010, 01:34 PM
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| | | Re: Is this a house martin??? i agree with rossy swallow even thoug i cant see tail streamers white pattern makes me think swallow
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08-08-2010, 02:00 PM
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| | | Re: Is this a house martin??? It is indeed a Swallow as confirmed by others.
The reason why the tail doesn't look forked is because of how widely it is spread. When a bird with a forked tail spreads the tail like this the end of the tail looks fairly straight (like in your photo) - a bird without a forked tail would appear to have a curved end to the tail with the feathers on the outer edges looking shorter than the central ones (try spreading a hand of cards and you'll see what I mean). | 
08-08-2010, 05:39 PM
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| | | Re: Is this a house martin??? Thank you all  )) | 
09-08-2010, 09:59 AM
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| | | Re: Is this a house martin??? May I offer an easy guide for House Martin, Sand Martin, Swift and Swallow identification:
House Martin = Blueish/black upper plumage with white rump patch on upper side.
Sand Martin = Brown upper plumage with brown 'chinstrap' marking.
Swift = Very dark plumage (can look black but actually brown) with very curved (sickle shaped) wings.
Swallow = Long tail feathers forming a very deep fork appearence.
I hope this may be of use. I am not an expert but know these to be diagnostics of the afore mentioned. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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