Which Pipit Please?

[BillyPilgrim]

I took these photos today in the Peak District above Sheffield and I'm not sure exactly what they are. I think they are Pipits, I thought Meadow Pipit but they're both different - male/female maybe?

If someone could help me out of my confused state I would be grateful

[big bill]

Hello Billy they are Pipits not to sure myself but have narrowed itr down to between the Meadow and Water Pipit and myself am leaning towards the Water Pipit because of the lighter colouring also the light coloured supercillum above the eye,I maybe wrong but I am going for the Water Pipit and stand to be corrected

[aeshna5]

Both Meadow Pipits as you intially thought. They can be quite variable- but it's not a sexual distinction; it's not really possible to tell them apart.

[RoyW]

Both are Meadow Pipits. These can show quite a lot of individual variation in plumage, particularly with regard to the strength of the streaking, and the overall colour (some are very grey, others are warmer brown). Male and female cannot be separated on plumage.

Edit: So basically the same as Aeshna posted while I was typing!

[pegasus]

Originally Posted by big bill

Hello Billy they are Pipits not to sure myself but have narrowed itr down to between the Meadow and Water Pipit and myself am leaning towards the Water Pipit because of the lighter colouring also the light coloured supercillum above the eye,I maybe wrong but I am going for the Water Pipit and stand to be corrected

I'm no expert on water pipits[or on anything for that matter] but are'nt they winter visitors and are usually seen in the South East?

[BillyPilgrim]

Cheers for the replies and info everyone!

[big bill]

Originally Posted by pegasus

I'm no expert on water pipits[or on anything for that matter] but are'nt they winter visitors and are usually seen in the South East?

I`m no expert also I was only going by the images in the book that`s why I stated that I was ready to be corrected ,but not tyo worry I knew Aeshna would be along sometime to fix it out but always like to try and have a go at the Id when possible .
9 x out of 10 they are wrong but get there eventually

[pegasus]

Originally Posted by big bill

I`m no expert also I was only going by the images in the book that`s why I stated that I was ready to be corrected ,but not tyo worry I knew Aeshna would be along sometime to fix it out but always like to try and have a go at the Id when possible .
9 x out of 10 they are wrong but get there eventually

Sorry Big Bill, i was'nt trying to be clever. It was more of a question i suppose.
I have the same problem trying to ID via books,especially as some photo images don't match what you in reality.

[Kayleigh]

Nice shots Billy..whatever they are.