gull id please

[denn]

this photo, (apologies for the quality) was taken in an Italian port last week, it was at some 70 meteres so a little difficult to judge the size, i think it was bigger than a blackheaded gull but smaller than a lesser black backed gull, hope this help's



the bill seem's to be dark with a pink/light ring
thank's
denn.

[Adam Cheeseman]

Probably a Juv. Yellow-legged Gull.

Cheers,

Adam

[denn]

thank's Adam for the reply, i'm still not convinced it's a ylg, i have not found any image's on the web with the type of bill marking's it has, but then again i don't pretend to be an expert on gull's,
thank's
denn.

[Picidae]

Originally Posted by denn

thank's Adam for the reply, i'm still not convinced it's a ylg, i have not found any image's on the web with the type of bill marking's it has, but then again i don't pretend to be an expert on gull's,
thank's
denn.

Bare part colouring on gulls varies enormously so never a reliable criteria on it's own. I'm not convinced it's a YLG either - it's obviously not an adult and I'd expect it to be a lot darker either way on the mantle. Tbh, Caspian looks a good possibility with those long legs and sloping forehead and most of the streaking concentrated on the upper breast - but on this image, I don't think you'll get a positive ID.

[denn]

i'm afraid this is about as good as it get's with this image, if it help's with id all the better.

thank's again.
denn