Birdie ID please

[yellowcrane]

Hi, These two pics are I think the same bird, anyone know Thanks

[Lance Morgan]

Young Wheatear

[Tursiops2]

Same species, Wheatear, but different individuals - pic one is a male; pic two, female. I would have said juvenile male also, from the short tail and lack of definition in the plumage, but... It seems a little early for juveniles to be about, and all the juv. Wheatears I've ever seen were much more "speckly" than either of those birds. A bit of a puzzler
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[Tobermorey]

As said above, male and female Wheatear. They look like adults to me - I don't know the moult pattern for Wheatears, but could the male have started with the tail?

[Jenny W]

Were the pics taken recently?

It would be early for a juvenile, but not impossible. Having said that - it's also quite early for adult birds to be starting a post-natal moult. They usually start in late June to mid July, beginning with the primaries and the tail starting shortly after. Male could be a second calendar year bird hence the pale lores and ear-covert? (just lost it's tail for some reason?).

I think they (or at least the male) are juveniles, but dunno really!

[yellowcrane]

Hi, the pics were taken last week in field near tees estuary.

[Jenny W]

Originally Posted by yellowcrane

Hi, the pics were taken last week in field near tees estuary.

Nice - I'm originally from Teesside.