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Old 10-05-2009, 11:56 AM
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Elmley, our first visit :)

Firstly I'd like to thank Magpie Mick who PM'd me some great advice on getting the most from this place

Venue: Elmley Marshes, R.S.P.B Date: 9.05.09

Friday evening [the 8th] Connor and I made plans for our first visit to Elmley, it was agreed I'd get him up at 6.00am and should be at the venue by 7.00. I can never lay in and was up at 4.45am, Connor came down at 5.00 so guess he was a little excited, we were now ready to leave our house at 6 and reached Elmley before 7.00am.
On advice from Mick we entered the site, well the entrance track which is 2 miles long, through the farm buildings and out into the open. The track seems to go on forever but the fields/wetland/marshes on either side are teaming with wildlife, Mick had said that we're allowed to pull over to one side to take pic's but we had to stay in the motor, this we did.
We expected to see some varieties of birds that we hadn't come accross before but we were amazed, the fileds either side were buzzing, there was just so much to see. Both Connor and I were hanging out of the car windows, Connor taking pic's one side me on mine.
There were Egrettes in abundance, the odd Heron, numerous Shanks, Oyster Catchers, Crows, Rabbit's, Hares, Partridge, Pheasant, Lapwing everywhere dancing around in the sky and just above the ground level, Cattle with Calf, Coots with chicks, Yellow Wagtail [this particular one refused to get out of the road until he'd finished preening]

Connor and myself have this little competion thing going on, he'd created a list/table of birds we'd seen and been able to photograph, each time one of us adds a bird to the list the totals for each automatically changed, and he's been ahead of me since we'd started, today however I intended to catch up.
Connor was desperately trying to get a picture of everything I'd taken one of, but as we're taking pic's from inside the car it wasn't always possible as obviously we were sitting on opposite sides, I have Swifts and Swallows in my list and well what seemed to be were a flock of Swifts almost dive bombing the car, Connor was clicking like mad, he now had pic's of Swifts allbeit through the car windows.
Oops back to the thread well this track which by the way is suitable for all vehicles just goes on and on, it's fantastic, you just don't know which way to look, it's really hard for the driver as you you've got to pay attention to the road whereas your Son's got more time to get one up on you.
Guess we'd better get to the venue otherwise I'll be here all day, right we've now reached the site carpark, there's several farm buildings around, the odd residential property [guessing wardens/staff] and toilet block. This area again is teaming with birds/wildlife, Connor got his pic of Swallow's as they were everywhere. I think they were nesting in the toilet block but using every other building and cable as somewhere to observe us observing them, along with the Swallow's in this area were Pied/Yellow Wagtail, Starling, Blackbird, Wren and lot's of other birds we didn't recognise [we class these as brown things and ask on here for help].
Connor asked to use the loo before we headed off to the first hide which was some 1 1/2 miles [or kilometres, don't remember], so toilet block here we come. Immediately behind the blocis a wall and a bank with a lake at the bottom, this contained mostly Avocets, the odd Shoveller and numerous Gulls. Connor came out the loo catching me taking pic's of the Avocets, neither of us had ever seen these before so although a little far away clicking commenced.
Right off we headed for the first hide [provisions are made for disabled peeps and they can actually drive to hide 1], as soon as you're away from the buildings you come to a pond on the right, here we found Swan and what we think were sygnets though they looked Penguinesque

Again many pic's were taken here as the abundance of wildlife just blew us away, Connor and I had taken nearly 500 shot's and we weren't anywhere near the first hide, just so much to take in.
As we continued along the clearly arked out pathway we were clicking left and right, allsorts of small brown birds kept revealing themselves in the reeds and bushes, flocks of Shelduck flew over head

Common Tern, an odd looking Cormorant [thought they were predominently black]

and many many others.
As you walk along you have the sea defences to your right and fields/wetland to your left, we saw many birds of prey, never in the right place for the good shot but we do have pic's for ID [please] at the end. Several Swan flew over making their honking type sound and splashed down in water not that far way but always behind the reeds so as not to give us the shot, we'll get them next time.
Right hide 1 that's got a name but we've forgot it, we crept up to the hide as we didn't didn't want to disturb anybody or anything, opened the door and went inside. There was chap in the corner and we greated him and tried really quietly to sort our stuff out, why can't you creep in walking boot's our monopods clonked when we stood them against the wall, our rucksacks made noises when we put them down, the benches creaked, the window flap hinges sqeaked, we did try so hard to be quiet but the hide floor/walls seem to amplify every sound the other man collected his things together and left 5 minutes after we got there SORRY.
Guess we now had the hide to ourselves though wasn't intentional what a great place to eat your sandwhiches, great view, little bench to put your lunch on and a ledge that you can use to steady you camera, amazing little construction.
As we were now settled and refreshed our noise died down and the wildlife came close again, those long range pictures we took of Avocets behind the toilet block weren't needed, this lake had them and they were close


We also had these sort of Shanks and I thought the first shot was amusing


Oops, just had to delete most of the smilies as to many pic's.
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:33 PM
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

Right where was I.
Other birds we saw plenty of from this hide were Shelduck, Shoveller and Mallard all who got seen off if they came to close to the Avocet nests.
Every now and again we heard this really wierd bird like noise, it was coming in through the flap on the right hand side of the hide but we couldn't see anything. It was loud like the bird and should have been in front of us but there was nothing there, anyway it took us a few minutes careful observation but we found the culprit, these guys were so noisey.
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We were now joined by we think another father and son pair in the hide so after a while whispering to each other we decided to give them a little piece and quiet and headed off to the next hide [going round in an anti clockwise direction] some 800m away, here we found Swan, a solitary Greylag and lot's more Avocet

After another hour or so we headed round to the hide that's right on the Swale though being high tide there wasn't much to see other than a Grebe so we ventured back encountering this little chap on a fence.

Who posed for for us for quite a few minutes
The walk back towards the carpark again was amazing, we had Common Tern overhead, Lapwings in the fields, flocks of Mallard flying accross our path, more birds of prey [really hoping one is a Buzzard] Canada Geese, more Swan, just to many birds for one day
Here's a few more pic's from arious places along the route back to the carpark.
Has this Coot chick got big feet?

Is this a grey Wagtail?

Some of the unidentified brown birds?






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Old 10-05-2009, 01:05 PM
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

Here are some dreadful shots of birds of prey we encountered, we were never in the right place at the right time and only realy caught glimpses of them as they flew past.
If you know their identity please let us know, along with Ketrels we saw:









These were taken at different area's as we walked round, a couple may be of the same bird as when I down loaded the pic's they came out in a wierd order?
Here's a few more shots taken when we got back to the carpark, they're not brilliant shots but I'm hoping it'll give you a feeling of being there and what can be seen everywhere you look.



Just found a couple more I wanted I.D's on


Right nearly finished [sorry, re-living yesterday with you guy's ]
As we left there was a car in front of us with a big [I mean big] lens sticking out of his car window, we went round past him and pulled over to see if we could see what he was looking at, spotted it a b.o.p. on a post in the field to our right.
At first we thought Kestrel because it wasn't a large bird but viewing the first pic's on our camera screens we now think it a Hobby? the bird must of sat there for at least 10 minutes while we clicked away [was also joined by another car].

This pic was taken on my D80 with Bigma lens attached resting on the car door, it didn't matter what F number or shutter/iso speed I used I just couldn't get the image any better. I was to far away
I have a thread going of pic techniques [other forum] where it's been discussed that the optimum focal range for the Bigma is 20-30 feet, the Hobby was probably 100' away, didn't matter what I did I couldn't get anymore detail than in this pic, it is in an un processed un cropped state so maybe I can get it a little better but my proccessed shots never look natural [think I need a longer lens ]

If you've got this far, thanks for reading and sorry it's so long [was a great day though : ) ]

Cheers all
Brian.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:37 PM
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

Phew! That's quite a read

Elmley sounds like a great place, I must get down there myself one day.

I'm rubbish at ID'ng from photos , but most of yours seem pretty straightforward, and as nobody else seems to be indoors on this fine Sunday afternoon , here's my offering:

451 = f. Yellow Wagtail
378 = Meadow Pipit
261 = m. Reed Bunting
247 = Cetti's Warbler (I'm pretty sure, lucky shot if it is, they don't come out of cover often).
253 = Meadow Pipit
243 = f. Reed Bunting
228 = Meadow Pipit

Most of your birds of prey appear to be Marsh Harriers, but 438 looks like Red Kite, possibly also 293. I'm not sure about 078.

231 = Mistle Thrush
418 = Meadow Pipit
413 is indeed a Hobby
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:49 PM
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

Many thanks for your ID's, really appreciated and quite a few new ones to add to my list

I would love one of the b.o.p's to be a Red Kite as it's a favourite of mine

Elmley was fantastic and can't wait to go back

Appoligies for the long post, I did cut short what I wanted to say, could have gone on and on as there was so much to see [especially for a newbie]

Thanks again
Brian [off to update my list]
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

I think the warbler might be a Sedge Warbler
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

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Appoligies for the long post, I did cut short what I wanted to say, could have gone on and on as there was so much to see [especially for a newbie]
No need to apologise at all, it's a good trip report, it reminds me of my own days as a beginner; those happy days when everything is new, and one starts to realise just how much there is to see out there. It's good to see youngsters catching the bug
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

Hi Brian,

Perhaps you need to start up a blog - you should have more space to say whatever you want then!

Sounds like you really enjoyed the day, one of the advantages of being a beginner is that everything is new and exciting.

Some of your unidentified pictures should be fairly easy to ID yourself from a good field guide (assuming that you have one - if not get some recommendations and buy one!).
I think that you should adapt your competition to give extra points for species that you have photographed and identified yourself - you'll learn far quicker that way, than by asking other people to ID your photos for you. Try posting after you have an idea to get confirmation (like you did with the Hobby - full marks for that one). Of course, I realise that you were obviously excited with the way the day went and probably couldn't wait to post!

Now some answers and ID's for you -

Your second photo is of a juvenile Coot (sort of the equivalent age to a teenager).
The cormorant is also an immature - adults are largely black, but they start out brown with varying amounts of white on the underparts.
The 'sort of shanks' are Redshanks, which are the only ones to have the white panel at the back of the wing.
The noisy frog is a Marsh Frog - very common in parts of Kent & south Essex and still spreading.
As T2 has said the wagtail that you thought might be a Grey is a female Yellow.

Now your unidentified birds;
Skylark, male Reed Bunting, Sedge Warbler (no pale stripe over the eye on Cetti's), Meadow Pipit, female Reed Bunting, Meadow Pipit. All of the raptors appear to be Marsh Harriers (a selection of males and females), with the exception of the last one which looks more like a Kestrel. The second photo shows a very rufous bird, with an untypically narrow black tip to the wing, but I still think that it is a male Marsh Harrier (the underwing on a Red Kite shows dark secondaries and a dark patch at the shoulder, not like the bird in your shot).

The final pictures are 2 Meadows Pipits, and of course your correctly identified Hobby.


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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated [even though I didn't get my Red Kite, next time]

We still got a few new ones to add to our list which is always good

Only problem I have with self ID's is a lot of our pictures just aren't good enough, someone with knowledge spots and identify's straight away. I also find the books we have here lack perhaps male/female variations, juvenile plumage, their chicks etc. We find birds that aren't in the book

As for the raptors well they all looked different to us, different area's of the reserve, different heights, different light. Our book shows them all sitting down nicely and posing for the camera.

On the otherhand though taking the dog for a walk this morning, not seeing a bird other than a couple of Robins I heard Blackbirds singing in the Hawthorn, a Whitethroat with multitude of different style songs/notes/calls in the tree covered with Ivy, a Jay's noise as it darted through the wooded area, our Chiff Chaff that sit's on the top of a small tree and sings his heart out oblivious to me searching for him, Magpies chattering away in the tall trees [well that's what I call it], cooing of the Wood Pidgeons & Doves and those Robins that I swear only start singing because they want their picture taken.

It's funny when you start to know what's around you without actually seeing anything

No doubt the ID's will come, Connors already way ahead of me there [kid's seem to pick things up so quickly].

Cheers again for your help
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Re: Elmley, our first visit :)

That's a great report 1957split (good year 1957, by the way ) - I'm glad you and Connor enjoyed yourselves and saw so many birds.
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