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[tWITCH]

Hello all

This one has got me foxed!





Can anyone help me with this?

[KeenTeen17]

looks like a female wigeon to me

[wildlifesnapper]

Hi

was it part of a collection because to me it looks like a Grey Teal - Anas gracilis, an Australian bird.


neil

[Picidae]

Got me stuck too! Don't think it's a Grey Teal, it's rather rufous and head markings seem off to me, but not seen one so not sure about that.

My initial impression was perhaps a female Red Crested Pochard hybrid, the head markings and head shape looks very RCP but mantle and breast obviously not ... not sure if they hybridise with wigeon and if they do, probably wouldn't look like this!

[MagpieMick]

I,m going with Bahama Pintail ............... maybe juv or eclipse..

Mick..

[Dae]

I am with picidae, completely stumped. From the photos I plumped for red-crested pochard, but although the head plumage is right, that body plumage is not right. So I'm stumped, hybrid perhaps?

**edited to add** looking at magpie mick's suggestion, this seems more likely, body plumage fits this better. Though I've never seen one look quite like this as it's missing the red you would expect on the bill.

[tWITCH]

Originally Posted by Picidae

My initial impression was perhaps a female Red Crested Pochard hybrid

Same here but same parts fit but not the rest, and from what I read it's location is all wrong: Nottinghamshire.

[tWITCH]

Originally Posted by MagpieMick

I,m going with Bahama Pintail ............... maybe juv or eclipse.

I have had to google this one as it is in none of my books. Looks convincing so far.

[Picidae]

Originally Posted by MagpieMick

I,m going with Bahama Pintail ............... maybe juv or eclipse..

Mick..

Looks close Mick.

They hybridise with Cinnamon Teal apparently (obviously the suspect bird is from a collection and hybridisation often occurs with pinned exotics). This might explain the rufous cheeks.

Hybrid with Cinnamon Teal

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...amahybrid3.jpg

Bahama/White-Cheeked Pintail
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bFfQy8nEHBc/SY...PS4I/ducks.jpg

There is a discussion I found on a Red-Crested Pochard X Bahama Pintail but there was no pictures available, so not very helpful. Still can't rule out some RCP heritage here though!