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03-09-2008, 03:54 PM
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| | | How many species ? Jason requested another so i took this awhile ago ........
How many and what species do you see ?
Mick.. | 
03-09-2008, 04:20 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? I see nine  | 
03-09-2008, 04:22 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? I'm guessing this is taken perhaps at Elmley?
In foreground appears to be:
Shoveler
Wigeon
possible juv Moorhen
Lapwing
Kestrel
In background obvious swans, but can't judge size or see any pointers for confident ID. Appears tobe Coot there + possibly something else I can't focus on. | 
03-09-2008, 04:23 PM
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| | Re: How many species ? Quote:
Originally Posted by northenige I see nine  | How about some names then? | 
03-09-2008, 04:32 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Is that a male Tufted Duck with the white front? Also may be some geese among the swans. | 
03-09-2008, 04:46 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? It was taken at Welney WWT, Norfolk in early Feb....... | 
03-09-2008, 05:10 PM
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| | Re: How many species ? Quote:
Originally Posted by MagpieMick It was taken at Welney WWT, Norfolk in early Feb....... | Which means they could be any of the 3 swans; though necks look very straight, so I'll remove Mute from equation. Look large compared to Coot, so I'll tentatively say Whooper, but I certainly wouldn't want to put hard cash on that! | 
03-09-2008, 06:00 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Whooper Swan - more numerous than Bewick's at Welney so I'll go for them.
Coot
Moorhen
Merlin
Shoveler
Wigeon
Pochard
Lapwing
...and a hidden Snipe somewhere.
Cheers,
Adam | 
03-09-2008, 06:38 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Cheeseman Whooper Swan - more numerous than Bewick's at Welney so I'll go for them.
Coot
Moorhen
Merlin
Shoveler
Wigeon
Pochard
Lapwing
...and a hidden Snipe somewhere.
Cheers,
Adam | Not to mention the Water Rail  | 
03-09-2008, 08:22 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Surely RobinP is correct about the Tufted Duck?
And I agree with the Whooper Swans, because of the straight necks and relative size.
Can't see the Snipe or Water Rail though - and I've been looking for ages!  | 
04-09-2008, 10:28 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Here goes then,
Whooper swans,
Shovelers
Coot
Moorhen
Wigeon (m)
Lapwings
Merlin (f)
Tufted duck (m)
Garganey (f ) | 
04-09-2008, 10:41 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Are there some small waders about 2 o'clock from the drake Tufted Duck hidden behind one of the bars of the gate? Or am I imagining things?
poschiavanus | 
04-09-2008, 10:51 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? there is something under the merlin to the left of the post, Behind a branch the front looks like a lapwing but the back end is something else, cant put my finger on the markings | 
04-09-2008, 11:01 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Back looks like m. Goldeneye but the front? Er, dunno...
The waders could be Redshank, and how about a Curlew @ 11 o'clock from the Merlin in the mashy bit just beyond the water? It is v. blurry so may just be a lump of wood  | 
04-09-2008, 11:27 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? I'll go for 9...
Whooper Swan
Coot
Shoveler
Merlin
Lapwing
Wigeon
Moorhen
Tufted Duck
Gadwall | 
04-09-2008, 11:39 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? you may have me on the Gadwall  | 
04-09-2008, 11:47 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? I expect I'm wrong then, but I was goining for the duck at the very bottom right. | 
04-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Thats the one..., i was looking for a better eyestripe but cant see one so you may be right, its close | 
04-09-2008, 01:56 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Quote:
Originally Posted by northenige Thats the one..., i was looking for a better eyestripe but cant see one so you may be right, its close |
Gadwall don't have a stripe through the eye; maybe you were thinking of Garganey, though one of these is unlikely to be around at this time of year as they are summer visitors (though there are very occasional winter records).
Looking at this near bottom RH bird I'm struggling to see it in focus, but maybe a female Pochard. Certainly not Gadwall or Garganey. | 
04-09-2008, 03:02 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? lapwing
pintail
tufted duck
shoveler
mute swans
__________________ this is a catchy signature :D | 
04-09-2008, 03:07 PM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Quote:
Originally Posted by aeshna5 Looking at this near bottom RH bird I'm struggling to see it in focus, but maybe a female Pochard. Certainly not Gadwall or Garganey. | I'm still for Gadwall. The bill all seems to be one colour and there seems to be a distinct break in the profile where the head and bill meet, whereas I always think of Pochard having a smooth profile here. No visible eye-stripe and wrong time of year so agree that Garganey seems most unlikely.
Note that this is all wild speculation on the minutest evidence. Thanks to MagpieMick for choosing a nice puzzler, and a nice contrast to KeenTeen's original one.
BTW: I'm ready to know the answers!
poschiavanus | 
05-09-2008, 09:57 AM
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| | | Re: How many species ? Quote:
Originally Posted by aeshna5 Gadwall don't have a stripe through the eye; maybe you were thinking of Garganey, though one of these is unlikely to be around at this time of year as they are summer visitors (though there are very occasional winter records).
Looking at this near bottom RH bird I'm struggling to see it in focus, but maybe a female Pochard. Certainly not Gadwall or Garganey. | I was reffering to the Gargany, i had gone for the female in my earlier post because the eye stripe is not always pronounced, but i think the gadwall would have been a better choice from that pic. The markings profile and loose feathering put me off Pochard which tend to be much tighter feathered with a grey-ish overtone. 
I'm ready to here what they are too now
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