Go Back   Wildlife and Environment Forums > British Wildlife > British Birds

Notices

Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 29-08-2008, 04:15 PM
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 191
Wheatear question.

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone could confirm a piece of bird behaviour? I think I saw a hen Wheatear earlier today. Would a Wheatear be likely to bob like a wagtail? Possibly if agitated or in warning mode?

Flying away from me this bird had a prominent white wedge on it's lower back quarters, and was a sort of plum/chestnut colour on it's upper back quarters. In profile it had a similar build and shape to that of a Yellow Wagtail, but from memory, around it's head and neck, was a fairly pale brown with a faint striation or eyebrow.

I originally spotted it on a pile of building rubble beside a country track and adjacent to open fields and stubble beteen stretches of low, sparce, mature hedgerow.

Regards Chris
__________________
My Flickr Gallery
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 29-08-2008, 08:30 PM
Knight Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,451
Re: Wheatear question.

Wheatears do habitually bob as you describe, especially if agitated by a person or potential predator. With raptors they tend to freeze on the ground.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2008, 10:23 AM
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 191
Re: Wheatear question.

Thanks Aeshna,

I've seen the same bird this morning about two miles from where I saw it/the last one before. It definitely appears to have many of the characteristics of a Wheatear, but it had a thin white bar on the outer edge of it's folded wing, which doesn't appear in any of my bird books.

I'm still a little uncertain to be honest, even though I watched it through bins today, and only from a distance of ten metres or so. The white on it's lower back is shown in the books as a 'T' shaped patch on it's actual tail. I cant be absolutely certain, but I got the impression it was more a case of it's lower back, or rump, rather than it's tail, that had the white on it. Unfortunately this white is only really visible as it flys away from me, and I've been unable to establish if it has the characterstic 'T' shape that the wheatear does.

One cast iron observation that I did make today was in it's flight style. It flew quite a distance over the heathland keeping about four feet from the ground and moving in a series of short undulating hops. Similar to a goldfinch, only with much more frequent and briefer undulations.

I'm going to have another look tommorrow morning and see if I can get an ID snap. It should be easy to tog, as the bird seems to be unusually human tolerant, and allows me to get quite close before flying off a short distance.

Regards Chris
__________________
My Flickr Gallery
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2008, 10:48 AM
Kev-B's Avatar
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: N.E. Lincolnshire
Posts: 193
Re: Wheatear question.

Hi Chris ..

If its of any help the prominent white rump is from where the bird derives its name .. originally (in Anglo Saxon) .. Hwitars or Hwitears .. "White A**e" ... which would indicate the rump, as opposed to the tail ..

Bye for now ..

Kev ..
__________________
Work .. is the curse of the Birding classes ..
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2008, 11:40 AM
galanthus's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mid Glamorgan South Wales
Posts: 2,222
Re: Wheatear question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev-B View Post
Hi Chris ..

If its of any help the prominent white rump is from where the bird derives its name .. originally (in Anglo Saxon) .. Hwitars or Hwitears .. "White A**e" ... which would indicate the rump, as opposed to the tail ..

Bye for now ..

Kev ..
Wow, how facinating is that
__________________
They told me I was gullible... and I believed them !
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2008, 05:46 PM
Kittiwake's Avatar
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 24
Re: Wheatear question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Hammond View Post
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone could confirm a piece of bird behaviour? I think I saw a hen Wheatear earlier today. Would a Wheatear be likely to bob like a wagtail? Possibly if agitated or in warning mode?

Flying away from me this bird had a prominent white wedge on it's lower back quarters, and was a sort of plum/chestnut colour on it's upper back quarters. In profile it had a similar build and shape to that of a Yellow Wagtail, but from memory, around it's head and neck, was a fairly pale brown with a faint striation or eyebrow.

I originally spotted it on a pile of building rubble beside a country track and adjacent to open fields and stubble beteen stretches of low, sparce, mature hedgerow.

Regards Chris
I had a very similar question yesterday - see here.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-09-2008, 06:25 PM
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 191
Re: Wheatear question.

Thanks everyone for the help. I feel pretty confident that they were wheatears now. Would the male have lost that blue head at this time of year? Only both birds were brown around the head, and it seems unusual to only see the females.

I have seen a male in a small flock pointed out to me by the warden whilst I was working at Wicken Fen many years ago, but only with my bare eyes, so these are a quite new experience.

Regards Chris
__________________
My Flickr Gallery
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply  

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» WAB Development Posts

No Threads to Display.

» New Wildlife Posts

Go to first new post Bird i.d. (looks like...
Last post by coasty
Today 09:21 AM
19 Replies, 228 Views
Go to first new post Gull I.D. Quiz pt.14 ?
Last post by coasty
Today 09:18 AM
5 Replies, 57 Views
Go to first new post Which birds might fly at...
Last post by Lance Morgan
Today 09:14 AM
10 Replies, 102 Views
Go to first new post What's Your Weather Like...
Last post by cutecoot
Today 09:11 AM
3,262 Replies, 32,006 Views
Go to first new post A bit of a frost.
Last post by cutecoot
Today 09:09 AM
6 Replies, 72 Views
Go to first new post Whats the most popular...
Last post by cutecoot
Today 09:04 AM
8 Replies, 68 Views
Go to first new post Buzzard with lunch - ID...
Last post by cutecoot
Today 08:46 AM
8 Replies, 185 Views
Go to first new post Night Heron in Kent .......
Last post by Blackdogjnr
Today 08:43 AM
6 Replies, 65 Views

» New Environment Posts

Go to first new post Re-cycle for more...
Last post by cutecoot
Today 09:19 AM
7 Replies, 95 Views
Go to first new post Any ideas to become more...
Last post by Wild-Woman
Today 06:05 AM
1 Replies, 22 Views
Go to first new post are you all keeping warm?
Last post by muddyfeet
Today 06:00 AM
68 Replies, 671 Views
Go to first new post Climate scientists: it's...
Last post by squishy
Yesterday 02:08 PM
7 Replies, 166 Views

» New Activity Posts

Go to first new post Practical Photography...
Last post by jennyb
Today 09:18 AM
25 Replies, 210 Views
Go to first new post Sigma vs Tamron 70-200
Last post by Davy Crockett
Today 08:45 AM
2 Replies, 55 Views
Go to first new post Outgrown my D60 -...
Last post by pressld2
Yesterday 11:06 PM
4 Replies, 64 Views
Go to first new post amazing freeware
Last post by Mick_S
Yesterday 10:29 PM
15 Replies, 184 Views

» New Community Posts

Go to first new post Swallowtails & Norfolk...
Last post by smartie
Today 08:35 AM
35 Replies, 392 Views
Go to first new post Britains worst dog owner?
Last post by sunnydale
Today 08:25 AM
11 Replies, 147 Views
Go to first new post Amateur Entomologists'...
Last post by leifus
Yesterday 08:48 PM
12 Replies, 474 Views
Go to first new post Treehouse Subsections
Last post by Jason Green
Yesterday 07:46 PM
66 Replies, 898 Views

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:21 AM.


Copyright Wild About Britain 2008

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490