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12-08-2008, 03:39 PM
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| | | Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff I think this a willow warbler, but await confirmation
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12-08-2008, 03:47 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Maybe it's a Garden Warbler.
I don't think WW or CC - the eye area, colour and shape don't really fit.
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12-08-2008, 08:12 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff I agree, I don't think this is either a ww or a cc. It does look quite a bit like a garden warbler, but having never seen one myself in person, I couldn't possibly say for sure. | 
13-08-2008, 08:04 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff I have looked at all my books and they show the gaqrden warbler with a thick short bill - this is not the case here.
Jury still out?
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13-08-2008, 08:26 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff I too am sure it's a garden warbler, no eye stripe, grey legs, buff underbits, bill looks about right to me too.
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13-08-2008, 09:17 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Yes, no discernible eye-stripe, no pale supercilium and lack of greenish colouring all point to Garden Warbler, though it does appear to have a pale eye-ring, a difficult bird to id for certain. | 
13-08-2008, 09:29 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff The shape looks very much like a Reed Warbler to me although the colours seem a little odd, I don't know whether juveniles are less rufous or have fainter eyestripes?
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13-08-2008, 09:47 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Quote:
Originally Posted by colincurry I think this a willow warbler, but await confirmation
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Colin | What sort of habitat, Colin. Near water? The reed warbler looks about right too.   | 
13-08-2008, 10:06 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff I ruled out Reed Warbler on the head shape, they seem to have a steep forehead and a shaggy head, also I've never seen one in a tree like that, only a waterside willow. | 
13-08-2008, 10:31 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff I saw this about 100 yards from the river; there were also gravel pits quite nearby.
Looks more like a reed rather than a garden to me. I did not consider reed because it was not immediately next to water; and certainly not in reeds.
A lot of reed pictures show a smooth head.
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13-08-2008, 10:36 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Definitely a reed warbler. Very nice shot. They are very difficult to photograph. Well done. | 
13-08-2008, 11:16 PM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Just received some expert opinion - juvenile Reed Warbler is the verdict. | 
14-08-2008, 12:01 AM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Is it not a juvenile Reed Warbler? | 
14-08-2008, 12:12 AM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Sorry did not read the last few posts before replying | 
14-08-2008, 08:13 AM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Thank you all.
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14-08-2008, 08:24 AM
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| | | Re: Willow Warbler v Chiffchaff Hmm, wasn't convinced on reed warbler, however, can see the paler underthroat now, 
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