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09-07-2008, 08:19 AM
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Hi!I hope someone out there can help me.
Yesterday evening (About 7ish) My husband & I were walking across a field in Dorset & crossing a small bridge to the lane & there was a very loud bird in the tree above us that I couldn't see.I managed to get it's song on our video camera.I'm not the best at recognising song bird sound!Is there a website that I can use to help - I have checked out the BBc one - but that only has 'basic'garden birds such as thrushes & blackbirds - this was louder than that!Could it be a Jay? |
09-07-2008, 08:43 AM
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The RSPB has the sounds for birds The RSPB: Birds by name
Jays make a sound like a crow with a sore throat 
Hope you find your bird |
09-07-2008, 08:51 AM
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Thanks!Will check it out!
This bird was quite tunefull - but louder than a thrush etc - a a bit more raucous in places! |
09-07-2008, 09:23 AM
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Ok - have checked the RSPB songs out - well most of them!Leaning towards it being a bird of pray - but muchmore tunefull than those on the site!!I hope this isn't gonna lead to me camping out under the trees watching for a sighting - not good at camping!Luckily we are about to move to the next field in 3 weeks - so will keep watching!  |
09-07-2008, 09:30 AM
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Some of the warblers are quite loud and raucous, take a listen to Cetti's, also Common Whitethroat. |
09-07-2008, 09:40 AM
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Checked them out - neither of them!
This bird has several different styles within it song!One almost a screech - then more tunefull! |
09-07-2008, 05:04 PM
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Can you post a clip of the song on here for us to help out?
Cheers,
Adam |
09-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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Have you tried the Mistle and Song Thrush ? |
09-07-2008, 06:00 PM
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Could it be a blackcap? I heard one for the first time last week,quite a loud song and tuneful.Think someone told me it has been called the "northern nightingale"
ellen
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09-07-2008, 06:57 PM
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Robins are the best birds and can really make themselves heard. I think all the good songs are from Robins. |
09-07-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ellen h  Could it be a blackcap? I heard one for the first time last week,quite a loud song and tuneful.Think someone told me it has been called the "northern nightingale"
ellen |
I've heard them called that up here in Lancs. They are a fabulous songster, better than the very similar song of the garden warbler.
My first thought on the unknown song, a song thrush perhaps?
Regards, Chris |
09-07-2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gaviston Robins are the best birds and can really make themselves heard. I think all the good songs are from Robins. | Have you heard the nightingale though? I heard one for the first time earlier this year-it stopped me in my tracks,beautiful song,so many variations and notes!
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09-07-2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ellen h Have you heard the nightingale though? I heard one for the first time earlier this year-it stopped me in my tracks,beautiful song,so many variations and notes!
ellen | Absolutely Ellen. They really live up to all the hype.
Regards, Chris |
09-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ellen h Have you heard the nightingale though? I heard one for the first time earlier this year-it stopped me in my tracks,beautiful song,so many variations and notes!
ellen | I think the bird I keep hearing may be a Nightingale then. It's like a little burst of some musical instrument. It's very similar in sound but different each time.
I feed a black bird and others everyday. When I bang my cats food dish on the floor to empty out her scraps the black bird pops up on a neighbours fence and watches. It loves cat food and it's comical to watch it do the same things everyday. |
10-07-2008, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gaviston I think the bird I keep hearing may be a Nightingale then. It's like a little burst of some musical instrument. It's very similar in sound but different each time.
I feed a black bird and others everyday. When I bang my cats food dish on the floor to empty out her scraps the black bird pops up on a neighbours fence and watches. It loves cat food and it's comical to watch it do the same things everyday. | Hi Gav'
I don't want to put a damper on things, but it is unlikely to a be a nightingale singing at this time of year as they will have finished singing by now. I went to two well known nightingale site in Norfolk and Lincs about a month ago and they had finished then as well.
Regards, Chris |
10-07-2008, 02:58 PM
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I have just listened to bird song on the RSPB site just now and the one fits the description for me is the Garden warbler, very tuneful and varied but also scratchy in parts like you said :0) |
14-07-2008, 08:42 AM
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I will try to post the song - but not sure how to separate it from the video - just quickly did it on our digital camera - not good at thses technical things!
Thanks for all the suggestions - have listened to:-
Blackcap - no
Garden Warbler - no
Nightingale -no
redstart - no
black redstart - no
Just spent an hour going through all the possible candidates on the RSPB site - none of them!
Starting to think it someones pet mynah bird that's escaped & hasn't made residence status yet!!!!Or even a clever starling - where I live at the moment one has got the soaring buzzard off to a fine art - I go running out to chase it away from my birdtable & there is the starling !!!
Will now try to sort out the song to post !  |
15-07-2008, 03:45 PM
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russell have you tried coal tit & willow tit on RSPB site? |
16-09-2008, 11:15 AM
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No - neither of those!There is another thread about a Nightingale Thrush - investigating that - even though not supposed to live here! |
18-09-2008, 01:33 PM
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At last - a nice man from the RSPB has replied with this :-
"It sounds like a song thrush in what is known as 'sub-song.' It's a bit like 'warming up' for the real thing. Song thrushes repeat each phrase two or three times."
So that seems to be it - at last !I suppose the sounds on the sites I looked at were just the basic songs - not the warming up!!
Thanks for all the help!!I can sleep well tonight!!Well that is if all the different owls here will shut up! |
18-09-2008, 03:58 PM
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Birdsong can be tricky sometimes - they don't always sing in the way they're supposed to!
A birdsong I didn't recognize had me going earlier in the year. It was singing quietly from deep in a bush very close by. It sounded very like a warbler to me, though it did repeat phrases. I kept thinking - what warbler sounds like a Song Thrush . When I finally got a glimpse of the elusive bird after nearly an hour, the answer was a Song Thrush! Doh. |
20-09-2008, 12:17 PM
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So they probably sit around waiting for us to go by & sing a different song to trick us!!!
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