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Old 27-06-2008, 07:43 PM
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Bird ID required

Hi everyone

Took a few photos at Pensthorpe last Sunday and have finally finshed sorting through them!

I've took a few of birds that I cannot identify (despite the ever helpful Google and Wikipedia) and wondered if anyone on the website is able to ID any of them.

Sorry, there is a few photos - but out of nearly 300 photos, it isn't that bad!

Photos as follows:












(some sort of Goose?)


(Mallard Cross?)


(thought these were Sparrows, but have yellow beaks, so am not sure)


(Ferruginous Duck?)

Thanks very much.
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Old 27-06-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: Bird ID required

No. 6 - Chinese Goose (an escapee)
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No. 6 - Chinese Goose (an escapee)
It's in a collection, so not an escapee yet!
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Old 27-06-2008, 08:08 PM
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1 Fulvous Whistling Duck
2 Male Rosybill
3 Female Hooded Merganser
4 Male Bufflehead
5 Female Smew
6 Swan Goose (ancestor of domestic Chinese)
7 Laysan Teal
8 House Sparrow (yellow is gape of juv)
9 Male Ferruginous Duck
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Old 27-06-2008, 08:36 PM
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It's in a collection, so not an escapee yet!
Oh,
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PS. Sorry, I forgot to say that I'm not sure if these birds or British or not, so apologies if there are some non-British birds...............
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Old 27-06-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Bird ID required

I think most of them in the wild would be non-native or migratory. Smew - Winters in the UK, H. sparrows are of course resident and the rest are either 'mega rarities' or only found in other countries.

Except for these here, which are in Collections.
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PS. Sorry, I forgot to say that I'm not sure if these birds or British or not, so apologies if there are some non-British birds...............
Only 1 of the wildfowl is a regular UK species- Smew which is a scarce winter visitor.

Ferruginous Duck is an occasional visitor fron Eastern Europe; there have been a handful of accepted records of the US Bufflehead + Hooded Merganser (another US species) has just be admitted to the UK list.

The trouble with wildfowl is that they are popular in captivity + often escape, which can make it difficult to tell whether a species is a genuine vagrant or an escapee!
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I've been checking Rare Bird Alert daily for a while now, Hooded Mergansers have cropped up twice or so this year.
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I think most of them in the wild would be non-native or migratory. Smew - Winters in the UK, H. sparrows are of course resident and the rest are either 'mega rarities' or only found in other countries.

Except for these here, which are in Collections.
All of them were taken at Pensthorpe ( a collection with nature reserve as featured in Springwatch!) according to the first post, so the House Sparrows would be the only wild birds featured!
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I could only identify 5, 8 & 9, I was baffled by the rest. Wish I had your bird Id skills

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Old 28-06-2008, 10:57 AM
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Apologies, I am a total newbie but am (slowly! ) learning about the subject of birds.

Call me naieve (sp?), but I did not realise that a majority, if not all, the birds at places like Pensthorpe were apparently bred in captivity and lived there.

Because a majority of my photos were of birds out in the open around the lake areas at Pensthorpe, I assumed they were flying over, liked the look of the place and decided to stop over for a while......whoops! It never occured to me that they might be full-time residents.

Now I know, I will try to refrain from placing pictures of 'non-wild' birds on this forum. Sorry!

PS. Please don't laugh at me - we all have to start somewhere
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Claire,

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Apologies, I am a total newbie but am (slowly! ) learning about the subject of birds.
Me too.

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Call me naieve (sp?), but I did not realise that a majority, if not all, the birds at places like Pensthorpe were apparently bred in captivity and lived there.
You wouldn't always - I often think 'What's to stop them going?'

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Now I know, I will try to refrain from placing pictures of 'non-wild' birds on this forum.
Sorry!
We don't mind trying to ID them for you, native or not!

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PS. Please don't laugh at me - we all have to start somewhere
Of course, we never stop learning.
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1 Fulvous Whistling Duck
2 Male Rosybill
3 Female Hooded Merganser
4 Male Bufflehead
5 Female Smew
6 Swan Goose (ancestor of domestic Chinese)
7 Laysan Teal
8 House Sparrow (yellow is gape of juv)
9 Male Ferruginous Duck
Agree
Lol - aeshna5 you're a birding legend!

Glad you're here, I learn so much from you
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