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27-06-2008, 07:43 PM
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| | | Bird ID required Hi everyone
Took a few photos at Pensthorpe last Sunday and have finally finshed sorting through them!
I've took a few of birds that I cannot identify (despite the ever helpful Google and Wikipedia) and wondered if anyone on the website is able to ID any of them.
Sorry, there is a few photos - but out of nearly 300 photos, it isn't that bad!
Photos as follows: 
(some sort of Goose?) 
(Mallard Cross?) 
(thought these were Sparrows, but have yellow beaks, so am not sure) 
(Ferruginous Duck?)
Thanks very much. | 
27-06-2008, 07:56 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required No. 6 - Chinese Goose (an escapee)
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27-06-2008, 08:05 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Green No. 6 - Chinese Goose (an escapee) | It's in a collection, so not an escapee yet!  | 
27-06-2008, 08:08 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required 1 Fulvous Whistling Duck
2 Male Rosybill
3 Female Hooded Merganser
4 Male Bufflehead
5 Female Smew
6 Swan Goose (ancestor of domestic Chinese)
7 Laysan Teal
8 House Sparrow (yellow is gape of juv)
9 Male Ferruginous Duck | 
27-06-2008, 08:36 PM
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| | Re: Bird ID required Quote:
Originally Posted by aeshna5 It's in a collection, so not an escapee yet!  | Oh, 
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27-06-2008, 08:55 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required PS. Sorry, I forgot to say that I'm not sure if these birds or British or not, so apologies if there are some non-British birds............... | 
27-06-2008, 09:03 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required I think most of them in the wild would be non-native or migratory. Smew - Winters in the UK, H. sparrows are of course resident and the rest are either 'mega rarities' or only found in other countries.
Except for these here, which are in Collections.
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27-06-2008, 09:07 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required Quote:
Originally Posted by clairescavys PS. Sorry, I forgot to say that I'm not sure if these birds or British or not, so apologies if there are some non-British birds............... | Only 1 of the wildfowl is a regular UK species- Smew which is a scarce winter visitor.
Ferruginous Duck is an occasional visitor fron Eastern Europe; there have been a handful of accepted records of the US Bufflehead + Hooded Merganser (another US species) has just be admitted to the UK list.
The trouble with wildfowl is that they are popular in captivity + often escape, which can make it difficult to tell whether a species is a genuine vagrant or an escapee! | 
27-06-2008, 09:09 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required I've been checking Rare Bird Alert daily for a while now, Hooded Mergansers have cropped up twice or so this year.
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27-06-2008, 09:17 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Green I think most of them in the wild would be non-native or migratory. Smew - Winters in the UK, H. sparrows are of course resident and the rest are either 'mega rarities' or only found in other countries.
Except for these here, which are in Collections. | All of them were taken at Pensthorpe ( a collection with nature reserve as featured in Springwatch!) according to the first post, so the House Sparrows would be the only wild birds featured! | 
27-06-2008, 09:28 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required I could only identify 5, 8 & 9, I was baffled by the rest. Wish I had your bird Id skills
Tracey | 
28-06-2008, 10:57 AM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required Apologies, I am a total newbie but am (slowly!  ) learning about the subject of birds.
Call me naieve (sp?), but I did not realise that a majority, if not all, the birds at places like Pensthorpe were apparently bred in captivity and lived there.
Because a majority of my photos were of birds out in the open around the lake areas at Pensthorpe, I assumed they were flying over, liked the look of the place and decided to stop over for a while......whoops! It never occured to me that they might be full-time residents.
Now I know, I will try to refrain from placing pictures of 'non-wild' birds on this forum. Sorry!
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28-06-2008, 01:12 PM
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| | Re: Bird ID required Claire, Quote:
Apologies, I am a total newbie but am (slowly! ) learning about the subject of birds.
| Me too. Quote: |
Call me naieve (sp?), but I did not realise that a majority, if not all, the birds at places like Pensthorpe were apparently bred in captivity and lived there.
| You wouldn't always - I often think 'What's to stop them going?' Quote:
Now I know, I will try to refrain from placing pictures of 'non-wild' birds on this forum.
Sorry!
| We don't mind trying to ID them for you, native or not! Quote:
PS. Please don't laugh at me - we all have to start somewhere | Of course, we never stop learning.
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28-06-2008, 08:55 PM
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| | | Re: Bird ID required Quote:
Originally Posted by aeshna5 1 Fulvous Whistling Duck
2 Male Rosybill
3 Female Hooded Merganser
4 Male Bufflehead
5 Female Smew
6 Swan Goose (ancestor of domestic Chinese)
7 Laysan Teal
8 House Sparrow (yellow is gape of juv)
9 Male Ferruginous Duck | Agree
Lol - aeshna5 you're a birding legend!
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