ID please

[AJH748]

Taken in Scotland earlier in the week:-



and



Also took this yellowhammer the following day



Thanks

Alan

[RobinP]

Hi Alan

1 and 2 could be Woodlark.

Robin

[AJH748]

Thanks Robin.

Just looked at the RSPB site and it does look like a Woodlark, but it seems to be out of place in Scotland?

[Lance Morgan]

1. Skylark
2. Meadow Pipit

[RobinP]

I think Lance is probably right, I'm no good on small brown streaky things and having just read up about it, Woodlark doesn't seem to wander north of the Humber.

[Rob_D]

Meadow Pipit I think (I'm hopeless with Pipits). Woodlark would have much shorter tail and different wing marks. Tree Pipit would have the streaks tapering out on the flanks. Also look at the enormous hind claw!

[kielder]

Number two, definitely Meadow Pipit: http://www.digiscoped.com/files/mipit7svga.jpg

[nigels]

Both Meadow pipit; note especially in perched bird the strong streaks on flanks and very long hind claw, which helps separate from tree pipit. Standing bird is harder as these features not visible, but has similar bill structure colour etc and dark in front of eye

All larks have much heavier bills, and woodlark occurs only as far north as York, it is a warm brown colour with a big, long obvious supercillium (stripe over the eye) and has a very stumpy tail. Oh and it avoids long grass!

YOu could google these species as there are loads of Gallery sites out there

[ChrisJB]

Yes, both meadow pipits.

Regards, Chris

[AJH748]

Thanks everyone.

Seems the concensus is with meadow pipit.
I thought maybe the one standing in the grass was a young pipit.