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17-05-2008, 06:29 PM
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| | | Mystery Bird Saw a bird today at the river side in Wolfscote Dale in Derbyshire. I cannot find it in my books.
A bit like a ring ouzel but quite a bit bigger, beak longer, quite long legs, the most striking feature was it's amazing white breast, squarish in shape. rest of bird was darkish brown speckled on the back (a bit pheasant like) but smaller speckles.
There were two of them preening themselves.
any ideas on what it might be please ?
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17-05-2008, 06:35 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Welcome to WAB, JM!
Longer beak, longer legs, by a river, a Wader??
I would have said Little Stint for the speckled back and white chest and Pheasant-like speckles but it isn't so numerous.
Wiuth the reference to Ring ouzels (Black, long legs, wader) maybe Oyster catcher? Probably not without a mention of the redness... as you can probably tell, a picture would have been great!
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17-05-2008, 06:38 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Not sure, they were on the bank side not in the water. | 
17-05-2008, 06:41 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird dipper - perhaps a juvenillie and hence specklyness | 
17-05-2008, 06:45 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Not a dipper, quite a bit bigger, large white breast but not white throat. | 
17-05-2008, 06:50 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster Not a dipper, quite a bit bigger, large white breast but not white throat. | hmmmm tricky, perhaps a juvenille coot, otherwise I'm rather out of ideas | 
17-05-2008, 06:51 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird So, on to the type. Is it a Wader (big-ish, long legs, bill etc)or a smaller bird (Garden type?)
The Dipper was a good suggestion:
1. Blackbird size
2. Square white chest
3. Aquatic habitat
I can only really suggest checking the RSPBs site and awaiting further posts.
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17-05-2008, 06:54 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Common Sandpiper springs to mind....!!!
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17-05-2008, 06:56 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Quote:
Originally Posted by MagpieMick Common Sandpiper springs to mind....!!! | oh that's a good one,
not much bigger than a dipper though - but size can be tricksie..... | 
17-05-2008, 07:15 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Thanks for all the suggestions, not a common sandpiper, not a little stint or oyster catcher, I think juvenile coot unlikely.
The white breast did not stretch into it's underparts, sides or throat. If you can visualise a robin with it's red breast, this was similar but stark white and bigger than a blackbird, but not quite as big as a pigeon.
I've never seen anything like it before.
I've tried the RSPB bird identifier to no avail.
Had the binocs with me, but left the camera in the car, typical!! | 
17-05-2008, 07:18 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Quote: |
...binocs with me, but left the camera in the car, typical!! | It happens to everyone. Or the batteries go. Or the card's full. Or you forget the tripod's quick release plate...
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17-05-2008, 08:58 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird how about, lapwing or plover. | 
17-05-2008, 09:03 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster The white breast did not stretch into it's underparts, sides or throat. If you can visualise a robin with it's red breast, this was similar but stark white and bigger than a blackbird, but not quite as big as a pigeon. | Slightly puzzled by this as a robin's redbreast does stretch into it's throat (and face.)
Otherwise can only think of a Lapwing, but then you would probably have mentioned the crest  | 
18-05-2008, 04:55 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird All, thank you for all the responses, having spent several hours last night browsing hundreds of bird images, I'm sure now it must have been a dipper, with my description not as accurate as it could have been. Next time, I'll take the camera!
kind regards to you all. | 
18-05-2008, 07:13 PM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird I was tempted to say Magpie, but no, Dipper sounds good from description and location. Last one I saw was in Austria, they're not very common in Herts.  | 
19-05-2008, 07:15 AM
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| | | Re: Mystery Bird Wolfscote Dale is a reliable spot for dippers.
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