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10-03-2008, 03:48 PM
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Hi saw this on a feeder this morning and not too sure what it is..only thing I could find similar was a serin,is that correct..thanks in advance..also had some bramblings for the first time today..   |
10-03-2008, 03:55 PM
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Im thinking Serin or female Siskin?
the other bird is a greenfinch right?...cant see its head though, and im thown by that tiny flah of white on its wing? do greenfinch have this i cant remember off top of my head
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10-03-2008, 03:56 PM
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No there are Siskin...
Adult on the right .... Juvenile 1st winter plumage on the left
Serin have stronger shorter bill and resemble Canary. |
10-03-2008, 03:58 PM
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ahh i was half right then!...didnt think greenfinch felt right on right and i knew it was one of the two on the left.
Im still a bit confused though as i thought even an adult male siskin had a streaked breast? not plain like a greenfinch?
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10-03-2008, 04:03 PM
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 I thought one on the right was a siskin?? |
10-03-2008, 04:04 PM
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Yes thats what we are saying snakeman...i was just getting curious as too non streaky breast
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10-03-2008, 04:05 PM
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Female or Juv Siskin on left, male Siskin on right. Both have yellow wingbar, seen here on male. Serins are very rare visitors, mainly to South coast.
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10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
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Ah ok thanks for that..it did look just like an image I found of a serin..seem to have loads of siskins all of a sudden!!..must be the nyjer..   |
10-03-2008, 04:15 PM
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Nice pic Stu, you can see the black crowns on these males, another good id feature. |
10-03-2008, 04:21 PM
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Thanks Robin..these are just some quick snaps. Thought it was about time I started to know what it was I was photographing.. and since joining here and having a read through old threads etc have learnt quite a bit..very usefull site.  |
10-03-2008, 05:35 PM
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Also, Serins are a rare summer overshoot species.
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10-03-2008, 09:16 PM
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The odd Serin has bred on the south coast. I believe a pair did in Dawlish several years ago.
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10-03-2008, 09:17 PM
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Both Siskin, one male one female |
11-03-2008, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJB  The odd Serin has bred on the south coast. I believe a pair did in Dawlish several years ago.
Regards, Chris | and a pair in Norfolk some years back too.
I reckon this is one of those species that will soon be colonising this country. |
13-03-2008, 12:48 AM
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Just to make sure snakeman as this thread reads a little strange now...but your birds are SISKIN not SERIN..but i think you got that by now?...
I just saw a link on the bird of the day and it appears you thought from this thread that we were saying they were SERIN.
Dan
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13-03-2008, 09:44 AM
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No I was linking to show that these were siskin.. |
13-03-2008, 04:34 PM
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ok thats cool then 
im jealous either way as i get neither on my feeders.
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31-03-2008, 02:02 PM
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Found this thread from a Google search of the web (UK).
These two have been appearing in my garden under the seed feeders for the last few days... 
At first I assumed Siskin but when I managed to get a photo, the top of the head does suggest Serin (males).
What do you think?
I'm in rural Suffolk so it is possible I suppose.
Sorry for photo poor quality, had to do it through a closed window...
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31-03-2008, 02:09 PM
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Can you upload the pic into the archive - my work PC won't let me see it!  |
31-03-2008, 02:10 PM
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I would say these are male Yellowhammers, Emberiza citrinella I am going by the stubby thick bill typical bunting, and the colouring on the rump of the bottom bird in the photo, typical of a Yellowhammer rump
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31-03-2008, 02:37 PM
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Hi RobinP,
I think I may have figured out how to put it in the archive.... 
(or I may have done something very wrong as I can only see the thumbnail in the archive, not the full picture.....)
Ollie,
Hadn't considered Yellowhammer, I used the RSPB search tool and it didn't take me there, I think because of the size I quoted.
I take your point, although they do seem a bit small for the size quoted for a yellowhammer. |
31-03-2008, 02:49 PM
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Archive photo sorted, it didn't like the jpg format I first used so I've changed it and it seems to view OK now. |
31-03-2008, 03:05 PM
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Thanks, can see it now, another vote for 2 yellowhammers and a dunnock. |
31-03-2008, 03:09 PM
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I agree, 2 yellowhammers and a dunnock.
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31-03-2008, 03:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie I would say these are male Yellowhammers, Emberiza citrinella I am going by the stubby thick bill typical bunting, and the colouring on the rump of the bottom bird in the photo, typical of a Yellowhammer rump
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Roger | Agreed - Yellowhammers, a relatively unusual bird to get in a garden. Welcome to WAB, retired, what part of Suffolk are you in?
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