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22-02-2008, 03:10 PM
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Taken last june. Was along time ago so ive forgot is song although it was quite complex. Carnt remember the size to well either  although it was bigger than a sparrow sized bird. It looks alot like a robin i think but plain brown, its song was different too.
Thanks alot.
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22-02-2008, 03:20 PM
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Sounds like a Dunnock, but I can't help but think that the silhouette reminds me of a robin. |
22-02-2008, 03:27 PM
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Looks like a juvenile (brown speckly) Robin.
Maybe learning its vocal repertoire?
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22-02-2008, 03:28 PM
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Hope you don't mind, Dogghound, I've played with your pic a bit and added more light, it might help with the ID 
Unfortunately I can't help with the ID but hopefully someone can soon 
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22-02-2008, 03:59 PM
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With the added enhancement I am going to change my mind and go with my hunch of robin. It just doesn't look like a dunnock. It may not have the red of an adult robin, but it sure looks like one. |
22-02-2008, 04:09 PM
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Second that. |
22-02-2008, 04:12 PM
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Definitely not a Robin - a bird that sings would have to have been an adult so would have had a red breast: also the tail looks too long. Probably not a Dunnock, either. It was June, it had a "quite complex" song and was "plain brown". So, an obvious candidate would be Garden Warbler although even the considerably-brightened photo isn't enough for a 100% positive ID. |
22-02-2008, 04:52 PM
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Confused by this one.
Admittedly, its tail does look too long for a Robin, given a closer look.
The more and more I look at it, the more and more it begins to look like a juvenile Blackbird???? But juv blackbirds don't sing do they???
Oh I don't know?! 
Doug 
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22-02-2008, 05:28 PM
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Could it be a juvenile thrush |
22-02-2008, 05:33 PM
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I looks like a thrush and the time of year when young are about.. |
22-02-2008, 05:37 PM
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Hi.
Looks like a female Blackbird.
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22-02-2008, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by baggy2508  Hi.
Looks like a female Blackbird.
Regards John B | I thought that but female blackbirds don't sing.. |
22-02-2008, 05:43 PM
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Hi Kayleigh.
Are you sure? I have looked at all of my bird books and not one mentions that a female Blackbird does not sing.
Regards John B
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22-02-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by baggy2508 Hi Kayleigh.
Are you sure.
Regards John B | Yes! only males sing.. |
22-02-2008, 06:12 PM
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Hi Kayleigh.
I bow to your superior knowledge.
Regards John B |
22-02-2008, 06:14 PM
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spotted flycatcher?
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22-02-2008, 06:37 PM
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The size issue is a very slight concern, but I reckon it's a possible Song Thrush.
Regards, Chris
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22-02-2008, 06:56 PM
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Cheers for the reply's so far BUT... it was not big enough to be either a blackbird or a thrush. Its had got me stumped
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22-02-2008, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by solus So, an obvious candidate would be Garden Warbler | As I said before....  |
22-02-2008, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by solus As I said before.... | Sorry solus, yes you did. Thanks alot for the ID.
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22-02-2008, 07:32 PM
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We have a similar brown bird in our garden we saw last weekend It was the same size and shape as a robin (bigger than a tit anyway, but smaller than a blackbird) except brown all over with a black stripe across the eye. I tried using the RSPB bird identifier and a book to ID, but it was too fast moving to see clearly and all the birds that came up either don't visit my part of the world (N. Ireland) or are summer only birds. Of course when I found the camera it didn't come back. |
22-02-2008, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by baggy2508 Hi Kayleigh.
I bow to your superior knowledge.
Regards John B | Hey, its only what I have picked up from sites like this.. |
22-02-2008, 07:59 PM
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So, it's smaller than a Songy. In that case, after looking closely at the head shape, I think it's a Robin, but with some sort of plumage aberration. The shape is wrong for a Garden Warbler.
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22-02-2008, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJB So, it's smaller than a Songy. In that case, after looking closely at the head shape, I think it's a Robin, but with some sort of plumage aberration. The shape is wrong for a Garden Warbler.
Regards, Chris | But it sang such a song, and was brown all over as the photo shows would a juvenile robin sing like this? and would there be juvenile robins singing in june? im not great with birds when do robins fledge?
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22-02-2008, 08:14 PM
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Nightingale ?. | | | |
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