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27-01-2008, 11:31 AM
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| | | Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
Hi all,
Do any wabbers have a copy of ( shorebirds an identification guide to the waders of the world ) by peter hayman.
I believe the book is currently out of print at the moment and is due to be reprinted in october 2008.
I was thinking of buying a copy and wondered if any body would recommend it or not...
..........cheers mark n......... |
27-01-2008, 03:43 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
Hi Mark, yes I have a copy and can certainly recommend it.
It was first published in 1986 when it won British Birds 'Best Bird Book of the Year' and I've had mine since 1989. I've also got the companion volumes 'Seabirds - an identification guide' and 'Wildfowl - an identification guide...' All 3 are excellent books 
Jeff |
27-01-2008, 04:32 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
I have a copy too + yes it's excellent.
I can also recommend another more recent wader book which is currently available + will cost you less. That is:
Waders of Europe, Asia + North America by Stephen Message + Don Taylor
This is also a Helm guide + unlike other title is light enough to take in the field. Worth getting if you're really into waders + travel a bit or want to get info on those rarer vagrants. |
27-01-2008, 10:19 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
Thanks jeff and aeshna for the info. I have a copy of the helm guide on waders by stephen message and don taylor.
I have been trying to improve my wader id skills and the helm guide has helped a lot.
I think i will wait until its reprinted in october and hopefully the price wont be quite as expensive. the only copys of Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World seem to be in america via amazon books and are a bit pricey.
Thanks again for your help
.........cheers mark n .......... |
28-01-2008, 08:33 AM
|  | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Yorkshire ( Gods Country )
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
May I suggest my book website of choice, ABE books they have lots of copies,,,, AbeBooks: New Books, Secondhand Books, Rare Books, Out-of-Print Books
Andy
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28-01-2008, 10:00 AM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
Personally, I think that 'shorebird' is a defunct concept.
By this term, people almost invariably mean waders on muddy shores and should say so.
In this country alone, the following birds have little if any difficulty in living partly or permanently on 'shores': gulls, crows, herons, swans, geese, ducks, pipits, auks, finches, buntings, larks.
In fact, the only birds which I have yet to see on a shore are specialists like woodpeckers and swifts.
Conversely, there are plenty of waders which are commonly found well away from (sea) shores - lapwing, sandpipers, dotterel, curlew. |
28-01-2008, 04:15 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
Yes I have a copy plus "Seabirds" and the "Wildfowl" books. All are very good. Plenty of information and a good reference when you get home.
Vince |
28-01-2008, 05:27 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
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Originally Posted by coasty  | I've used Abe books many times too with good results
BUT
Ring the seller direct and you are likely to get a better deal - Abe take a heavy cut  |
28-01-2008, 08:18 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
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Originally Posted by coasty | Thanks to everyone who posted replies .
Andy iv'e just looked on abebooks and found one for £15 which is a lot cheaper than i was previously looking at. eighty something pounds on amazon going up to over two hundred pounds on a site in america.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
........cheers mark n....... |
28-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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| |  Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
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Originally Posted by Jolanta Zofia Nowak Personally, I think that 'shorebird' is a defunct concept.
By this term, people almost invariably mean waders on muddy shores and should say so.
In this country alone, the following birds have little if any difficulty in living partly or permanently on 'shores': gulls, crows, herons, swans, geese, ducks, pipits, auks, finches, buntings, larks.
In fact, the only birds which I have yet to see on a shore are specialists like woodpeckers and swifts.
Conversely, there are plenty of waders which are commonly found well away from (sea) shores - lapwing, sandpipers, dotterel, curlew. | Hi jolanta
I think the americans refer to waders as shorebirds maybe the authors where trying to capture the american market when they decided on a title for the book |
29-01-2008, 11:51 AM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
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Originally Posted by dunlin Thanks to everyone who posted replies .
Andy iv'e just looked on abebooks and found one for £15 which is a lot cheaper than i was previously looking at. eighty something pounds on amazon going up to over two hundred pounds on a site in america.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
........cheers mark n....... | Glad i could help
Andy
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29-01-2008, 09:44 PM
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| | | Re: Shorebirds an Identification Guide to the Waders of the World
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Originally Posted by Jolanta Zofia Nowak Personally, I think that 'shorebird' is a defunct concept.
By this term, people almost invariably mean waders on muddy shores and should say so.
In this country alone, the following birds have little if any difficulty in living partly or permanently on 'shores': gulls, crows, herons, swans, geese, ducks, pipits, auks, finches, buntings, larks.
In fact, the only birds which I have yet to see on a shore are specialists like woodpeckers and swifts.
Conversely, there are plenty of waders which are commonly found well away from (sea) shores - lapwing, sandpipers, dotterel, curlew. | Just goes to show that you can't judge a book by its cover (title) 
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