Help with ID

MikeW · #1 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 09:36 AM

Hi all, Hoping for some help with the ID. I just cant make my mind up taken early summer last year in my Bedfordshire garden

Alan · #2 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 09:49 AM

Looks like a strange looking young Robin to me! The yellow colours are a bit odd though!

Wolfhill · #3 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 09:51 AM

I would agree with robin, looks like he/she has been having a bit of a rough time!!
Fergus

marie.w · #4 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 10:11 AM

we thought robin as well but on closer inspection it could be some sort of warbler. we will ask our family and friends and lookup all our books and if we get something more definite we will post back.
marie & neale

MikeW · #5 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 10:15 AM

Thanks for your thoughts. it is not a Robin I think Juvenile Warbler but not sure which here is another view. There was a pair and they remained in the garden for about a day

marie.w · #6 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 10:37 AM

we have a collins bird book with a picture of the juvenile and adult willow warbler and your first picture looks like its between the both. so it could be the juvenile losing its bright yellow feathers.
marie & neale

goldfinch · #7 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 10:42 AM

hi mike,
'think you're quite right. At first I could guess it's a juvenile something...
As it got some yellow colour on its wings isn't it simply a "special" Goldfinch?

marie.w · #8 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 11:24 AM

hi mike
by the way, fantastic close up shots. what camera are you using as its about time i got a good one.
marie

Fourwings · #9 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 11:38 AM

I'd say its almost certainly a juvenile Warbler, possibly Willow, but it could also be a ChiffChaff.
Difficult to tell really, sorry I can't be more help!

MikeW · #10 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by marie.w

hi mike
by the way, fantastic close up shots. what camera are you using as its about time i got a good one.
marie

Hi Marie, these were taken with canon 20D and 100/400 LIS lens

MikeW · #11 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fourwings

I'd say its almost certainly a juvenile Warbler, possibly Willow, but it could also be a ChiffChaff.
Difficult to tell really, sorry I can't be more help!

Thanks, this is what I have been going over in my mind for the past few months Chiffchaff or Willow Warbler

LincolnshireFred · #12 (**permalink**) 01-05-2006, 10:05 PM

I think it's a juvenile Yellow Wagtail,the eye streaks do it for me

LincolnshireFred · #13 (**permalink**) 02-05-2006, 05:55 AM

Ooops didn't see the second picture!
A warbler it is then,I'd now go for Chiffchaff
Would have changed my first post completely ,while you were all asleep. But, I'm having problems posting .
Shown as on line but,I can't do anything but look????

marie.w · #14 (**permalink**) 02-05-2006, 09:42 AM

Hi again,
I think it is definitely a Warbler rather than a Chiff Chaff as the main difference between them is the colour of their legs. Willow Warblers are brownish and Chiff Chaffs are black. If you look at the photo on .... http://www.grayimages.co.uk/Chiff%20...2003,04,05.htm
you will see how black the Chiff Chaf legs are. from what I can see the two photos on this thread aren't as dark as those.
Marie.

MikeW · #15 (**permalink**) 02-05-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by marie.w

Hi again,
I think it is definitely a Warbler rather than a Chiff Chaff as the main difference between them is the colour of their legs. Willow Warblers are brownish and Chiff Chaffs are black. If you look at the photo on .... http://www.grayimages.co.uk/Chiff%20...2003,04,05.htm
you will see how black the Chiff Chaf legs are. from what I can see the two photos on this thread aren't as dark as those.
Marie.

Many thanks for all your help Marie. I am sure you are right and I will leave it as a Juvenile Willow Warbler in my records.