[bobbarber]

Originally Posted by florence

yep - thats us - failures! :P

I agree with david156, you are not failures but going through a learning process. We have an ex gravel pit on our land which tends to flood from time to time. Many years ago my son who was quite young came running up to me yelling ``Dad there`s a big black parrot down the pit``. Out of curiosity I went to take a look and it turned out to be a cormorant ...Bob