Thank you for your nice replies after browsing through the excellent pic in the
Gallery I was a bit dubious about posting pics as I am a very amateur photographer I have a basic digital camera Panasonosic _LZI but it does have 6x optical zoom which I find useful for close-ups I always take it when out walking and find it useful to be able to come home and delete the rubbish much better than the old days of film by the time they had been developed I had forgotten were I had taken them