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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk  Environmentalists do their best to have us believe that GW is all our own fault, but how can they really be so sure. |
Which environmentalists? All the ones I know think that global warming is a natural process that's been added to by man over the last 150 years.
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk Scientists say that other planets such as Mars are experiencing changes such as melting ice-caps, Is this also our fault? Have NASA sent up more Rovers than they are admitting to? |
Until we find a planet that's evenl remotely similar to earth I think it's dangerous to make comparisons.
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk A recent report by the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization said that livestock produces more greenhouse gases than cars, planes, and all other forms of transportation put together. Britain's Independent News says the report blames cow flatulence and manure for one third of all methane emissions, warming the earth 20 times faster than carbon dioxide. The world's 1.5 billion cows are also blamed for acid rain, desertification and the destruction of coral reefs. So there we have a solution, slaughter all livestock and save the planet-job done! |
Again, I think environmentalists will happily agree that global warming isn't all manmade.
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk The Sunday Telegraph says the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has reduced its estimate of human affect on global warming by 25 percent. And it has changed its mind on how much sea levels will rise, by half. Damn it! Does this mean I won't need those new green wellies after all. |
Does this mean that you now accept the IPCC findings? It shows an incredible degree of courage and honesty for them admit they were wrong. As I see it, they were actually just zero-ing in on the accuracy of their initial estimates.
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk People tend to put their trust in those who claim to know and I would say to you that you don't know. |
I don't know anyone who's giving 100% guarantees on anything to do with Climate Change. Sometimes we have to put our trust in scientists who spend their entire lifetime studying these subjects. They know considerably more than me, the media, politicians etc. What we're left with isn't 100% fact, it's not gospel, it's just probability...but if the probability is high enough then it's maybe worth listening to them.
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk Cooling and warming of our planet has gone on for millions of years, or is that something you don't believe either. |
Agreed. But it's only in the last 150 years that we've pulled out huge guantities of coal, oil and gas from the earth, and burnt it to release energy and CO2 into the atmosphere. Is it so difficult to imagine that this could have any effect on the planet's ecosystem?
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk If all this GW is making the world a hotter place, why do my heating bills keep going up. Weather forecasters cant even tell us what our weather will be like tomorrow, never mind what it will be like in a hundred years time. The forecast for today for this area was cloudy, misty and with temps around 4 or 5 degrees. Nothing could be further from the truth, there's not a cloud in the sky, not even one little teeny-weeny one on the horizon, and the temp is + 12. |
You're mixing up Global Warming with local warming. In the UK we can go up and down the thermometer more than 40 degrees between winter and summer. Yet, when the earth's global temperature was 5 degrees lower than today's we were in an ice age.
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Originally Posted by gfilmsuk I think you (clever) environmentalists need to give the straight thinking population a break. |
Of course, some would say that man has had a break for the last 150 years.
Stu