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Old 20-11-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: Hare Coursing

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Originally Posted by Deerhunter View Post
"Please DH, don't take me for a fluffy bunny hugger that doesn't know anything about the real world! "

I'd love to believe you but it is going to be difficult.
And why is that - just because I don't agree with you?

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Prolapses, triplets, foxes taking lambs, lambs not sucking, lambs getting lost, lambs coming oeoeoeoe first, etc, etc, are all things I can do something about. And I try to. Why don't you understand this? Everytime a fox takes a lamb it is between £17 (this year) and £50 lost. The same as if one dies of hypothermia. I try and prevent both.
I understand that perfectly well - and I understand perfectly well that you try and reduce it by as much as you can. My point is that hunting of foxes did not, and still does not, affect the overall number of foxes and so any perception of control is an illusion. It may be a perfectly understandable illusion .. but it's an illusion all the same.

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"And when foxy woxy is killed, another foxy woxy comes to take it's place ... a foxy woxy that would in all probablity be killed on the road if a territory wasn't available for it to take over - ironically due to the hunt killing the cute resident foxy woxy. Isn't that what happens?"

No.
that's where you're wrong

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"Isn't that why, in a commercial forrest, 56 foxes could be killed in a year when the resident population was estimated at only 32? And there were STILL foxes present?"

Got me. what does this mean?
it's called immigration!

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Ithink you are guessing a little. See I may be stupid next to the Brains but as I said I live in the real world. That is why we go cubbing. You will have to take my word for it that it reduces the numbers.
No - not guessing. Just loking at what happens when you actually measure the populations. So I don't need to take your word for it. Now, I did see one piece of work recently that showed a negative correlation of fox population with hunting pressure, which means that the fox population was lower in hunted areas than similar non hunted regions. It was in upland regions - and guess who did the study ...... yes, your friend, Prof. S. Harris
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