Hi all,
Dare I ask for another bird Id? lol
......again the photos are poor ( but must be better than nothing

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Taken 1hr ago
What the pics don't show clearly:
Red/scarlety patch right under chin. ( this 100% positive, and is the most striking marking which is preculding me from id'ing it! along with grey head )
Finch-like beak
Goldfinch size though fatter.
Its call was unusual, a bit like 'kick-a-tee'.....more melodic than shrill
....................Bird was with other finches/linnets nearby in a willow clearing of a spruce forest.
I expect I've missed an obvious bird!!
thks